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Aunt Tracye Says: July 15th, 2005 at 3:21 pm
When my nephew got called up last year we were worried and we are still worried because of the situation he is in but we have faith in him and faith in God that he will be safe and he will come home to us. He is so young and I hated for him to be introduced to the horrors of war. I had an Uncle who served with Patton in Europe and experienced The Battle of the Bulge and who came home with a wounded soul which never healed. I didn’t want this for my nephew but in life sometimes we have to let go and let God! I am still struggling with the letting go part.We did get to see our nephew in May when he was home for R&R! He got to present his brother with his HS diploma and it was a very special and emotional time that we will never forget. You hear about all the bad that US Soldiers do the Abu Ghah scandals etc but I see all the good that these soldiers are doing in the lives of these desperate Iraqi people especially the children. Most of these people have absolutely nothing. My nephew has told us that he thought he had seen poverty in MS but he had seen nothing compared to the poverty he had experienced in Iraq. We are all pitching in at home to help as well.. we are collecting school supplies, shoes, toys, candy to send to the children of a school that Company A has adopted. There is the little boy called Mohammed who has captured the hearts of Co A as well as all of us at home. The company is trying to get him and his family to America for desperately needed surgery. Here at home I am trying to stay busy so I am collecting boxes of toys to send to the kids of Iraq. I have sent our little man in Iraq a box of clothes and toys. I got MSU to send some media guides, a flag, and posters to the guys. I am in the process of collecting letters to send to the troops… my goal is that for one mail call everyone in Co A or at Dogwood get a letter from home! You can send the letters to Letters From Home 352 Marian Lane Vicksburg MS 39183! And we check email most everyday for word and we read SFC Kelly’s journal everyday to keep up with the guys over there! And we wait, count the days, and pray! That really is all we can do! Thank you for your article on our guys in Co A. We appreciate your reporting on a bunch of guys from Mississippi who are doing remarkable work in a desolate country so far away from home! This means alot to them as well as all of us back here in the USA! Thank you so much!
jc Says: July 18th, 2005 at 12:53 pm
Aunt Tracye obviously has a good heart. I hope God hears her prayers. But, presuming everyone in harms way in Iraq is being prayed for, and presuming, in a war, some in the offense as well as some in the defense must die, have their bodies torn apart and mangled or be condemned to live with mental visions they find intolerable, how does God choose who will return home safely and who will not? Those whose prayers are concerned with defeating those who resist them seem also to be numerous. How does God choose? This task, based on the number of unanswered prayers, roughly half of them given probably about 50% will be pro and about 50% con any issue or wish or goal, seems to be beyond the ability of God. It would seem to be merely charitable to an overwhelmed God to withdraw the troops who are not on their home territory and end the mayhem. It would only seem to be in accordance with Christianity and Islam, both apparently worshipping the same God. It is hard to imagine that God would not be pleased to be relieved of the irreconcilable choises being presented by the prayers, and is not pleasing God to be a far greater goal than those of the praying?
Aunt Tracye Says: July 18th, 2005 at 8:39 pm
In response to JC….
Let me set at least one thing straight God has never been or never will be overwhelmed. And I am not really sure what God Islam follows and I am not here to get into that religious discussion but God is NEVER overwhelmed … we humans with our desire to controll every aspect of all of his creations it is us who get overwhelmed…..
I know we are doing wonderful amounts of good in Iraq… these people were being murdered by their wonderful dictator Saddam for the cause of SCIENCE and well if you said anything negative about him or his inbred sons you were killed… thousands have succumbed to his genocide. He is a modern day Hitler… what is so wrong in going and disposing such a barbaric leader? I see no harm in it….
There is evil in this world and the USA and her troops are not at the root of it all… We didn’t want war war was brought to our doorstep on September 11, 2001. When thousands died at the hands of Islamic Extremists if you want to see evil look into Osama’s eyes! I lost a friend at the Pentagon on September 11… his family is having to live a life without him and that was not fair… he wasn’t at war he was sitting at his desk doing his job.
The US and her troops and her government are not the enemies here!God is in his heaven and in control of our UniverseSo stop worrying and start praying!
I am going to try and answer you by quoting from Max Lucado’s Book (written as the ashes settled from 9-11) America Looks UpChapter 1 Where is God?Many people are wondering today how God could allow the tragedy of 9-11 to happen… what could he be thinking? Is God really in control? Yes he is very much in control I know alot of liberal minds would like to lead people to believe that we (humans) are in control but God is in his heaven and he is in control…. His ways are not our ways his thoughts are not like our thoughts….We believe preserve the body he is thinking save the soul. We dream of a pay raise he dreams of raising the dead. We avoid pain and seek peace. God uses pain to bring peace. We love what rusts he loves what endures. We show our kids the NBA superstar and say be like Mike. God points to the crucified carpenter with bloody lips and a torn side and says be like Christ. How vital that we pray armed with the knowledge that God is in heaven.. pray with any lesser conviction and our prayers are timid. shallow, and hollow. It is as important to know that even though God is in another realm he does bend close to see our sorrow and hear our prayers he is not so far above us that he is not touched by our tears. Though we may not be able to see his purpose or his plan, the Lord of heaven is on his throne and in firm control of the universe and our lifes and this war. So we entrust him with the future and with our lives and the lives of our enemies. Chapter 4 Good Truimphant….. How could God allow such evil (the terrorist attacks on 9-11) to bring so much destruction and loss? As the rubble still smolders and our hearts still ache, our questions continue. And yet we’ve already seen goodness emerging from the ruins… heroic deeds, selfless compassion, sense of community. Somehow in the midst of something so awful, goodness fights to prevail.
In this war goodness will prevail and the Iraqi people will one day enjoy freedom and prosperity …..
There are heroic deeds and kind acts that accompany our soldiers daily. The peek a boo with a two year old child; handing our school supplies and shoes to children who would not have any otherwise; handing our medical supplies to clincs stripped bare by insurrgents; caring for a fallen enemy and tending to his wounds as you endanger you own life (that happened yesterday or today)… because it is your job to save lives! And the list grows on a daily basis! God maybe sent us there for a reason did you ever think of that? I know of one little boy who is grateful that Co A found him and he will be getting medical attention after being born 7 years ago with life threatening birth defects… he was found because we were there….. chance …. NAH… God!
I am sorry I ranted but I love my nephew and I love my God and I believe in what both of them are doing!
wonderwomanjoa74 Says: July 19th, 2005 at 9:42 am
WELL SAID, AUNT TRACYE!!!!! You and I really should chat…
jc Says: July 20th, 2005 at 2:31 pm
It may very well be that an equivalent percent of Iraqi women have feelings and wishes and hopes and beliefs indistinguishable from those of Aunt Tracye. Unfortunately, since the paricipants and supporters of the events in question are each trying to destroy the other in order that their own interests will remain intact and safe, many of the women on both sides will have their dreams crushed and they will suffer agonies. And all these women, Christian and Muslem, claim to be praying to the same God. Incredible. This seems to show little respect for God to ask him to both do something and not do it in the same circumstance. I understand that faith may be all there is to cling to when control is entirely out of reach and one can do nothing to help. I am sorry.
Aunt Tracye Says: July 20th, 2005 at 3:33 pm
I am sorry for you too JC to have no faith to cling to when things go wrong to have no God to turn to when sorrow overwhelms you… to have no place to go to get away from all the horrors in the world…
Oh ye of little faith!
At least I have God if nothing else; and when my world is falling apart I have him to turn to; He is the constant in my life… he will never forsake me and he is always there even when evil comes to visit.. he is there and he is in control of my life as well as the lives of our soldiers and their enemies.. I know it is a hard concept but I have found help in understanding by reading Max Lucado books… he has a way of explaining the unexplainable! I suggest you invest in some of Max’s books as well!
I am sorry you have not let God into your heart I hope that by talking to me that you will consider it … faith is a wonderful thing….
When my nephew got called up last year we were worried and we are still worried because of the situation he is in but we have faith in him and faith in God that he will be safe and he will come home to us. He is so young and I hated for him to be introduced to the horrors of war. I had an Uncle who served with Patton in Europe and experienced The Battle of the Bulge and who came home with a wounded soul which never healed. I didn’t want this for my nephew but in life sometimes we have to let go and let God! I am still struggling with the letting go part.We did get to see our nephew in May when he was home for R&R! He got to present his brother with his HS diploma and it was a very special and emotional time that we will never forget. You hear about all the bad that US Soldiers do the Abu Ghah scandals etc but I see all the good that these soldiers are doing in the lives of these desperate Iraqi people especially the children. Most of these people have absolutely nothing. My nephew has told us that he thought he had seen poverty in MS but he had seen nothing compared to the poverty he had experienced in Iraq. We are all pitching in at home to help as well.. we are collecting school supplies, shoes, toys, candy to send to the children of a school that Company A has adopted. There is the little boy called Mohammed who has captured the hearts of Co A as well as all of us at home. The company is trying to get him and his family to America for desperately needed surgery. Here at home I am trying to stay busy so I am collecting boxes of toys to send to the kids of Iraq. I have sent our little man in Iraq a box of clothes and toys. I got MSU to send some media guides, a flag, and posters to the guys. I am in the process of collecting letters to send to the troops… my goal is that for one mail call everyone in Co A or at Dogwood get a letter from home! You can send the letters to Letters From Home 352 Marian Lane Vicksburg MS 39183! And we check email most everyday for word and we read SFC Kelly’s journal everyday to keep up with the guys over there! And we wait, count the days, and pray! That really is all we can do! Thank you for your article on our guys in Co A. We appreciate your reporting on a bunch of guys from Mississippi who are doing remarkable work in a desolate country so far away from home! This means alot to them as well as all of us back here in the USA! Thank you so much!
jc Says: July 18th, 2005 at 12:53 pm
Aunt Tracye obviously has a good heart. I hope God hears her prayers. But, presuming everyone in harms way in Iraq is being prayed for, and presuming, in a war, some in the offense as well as some in the defense must die, have their bodies torn apart and mangled or be condemned to live with mental visions they find intolerable, how does God choose who will return home safely and who will not? Those whose prayers are concerned with defeating those who resist them seem also to be numerous. How does God choose? This task, based on the number of unanswered prayers, roughly half of them given probably about 50% will be pro and about 50% con any issue or wish or goal, seems to be beyond the ability of God. It would seem to be merely charitable to an overwhelmed God to withdraw the troops who are not on their home territory and end the mayhem. It would only seem to be in accordance with Christianity and Islam, both apparently worshipping the same God. It is hard to imagine that God would not be pleased to be relieved of the irreconcilable choises being presented by the prayers, and is not pleasing God to be a far greater goal than those of the praying?
Aunt Tracye Says: July 18th, 2005 at 8:39 pm
In response to JC….
Let me set at least one thing straight God has never been or never will be overwhelmed. And I am not really sure what God Islam follows and I am not here to get into that religious discussion but God is NEVER overwhelmed … we humans with our desire to controll every aspect of all of his creations it is us who get overwhelmed…..
I know we are doing wonderful amounts of good in Iraq… these people were being murdered by their wonderful dictator Saddam for the cause of SCIENCE and well if you said anything negative about him or his inbred sons you were killed… thousands have succumbed to his genocide. He is a modern day Hitler… what is so wrong in going and disposing such a barbaric leader? I see no harm in it….
There is evil in this world and the USA and her troops are not at the root of it all… We didn’t want war war was brought to our doorstep on September 11, 2001. When thousands died at the hands of Islamic Extremists if you want to see evil look into Osama’s eyes! I lost a friend at the Pentagon on September 11… his family is having to live a life without him and that was not fair… he wasn’t at war he was sitting at his desk doing his job.
The US and her troops and her government are not the enemies here!God is in his heaven and in control of our UniverseSo stop worrying and start praying!
I am going to try and answer you by quoting from Max Lucado’s Book (written as the ashes settled from 9-11) America Looks UpChapter 1 Where is God?Many people are wondering today how God could allow the tragedy of 9-11 to happen… what could he be thinking? Is God really in control? Yes he is very much in control I know alot of liberal minds would like to lead people to believe that we (humans) are in control but God is in his heaven and he is in control…. His ways are not our ways his thoughts are not like our thoughts….We believe preserve the body he is thinking save the soul. We dream of a pay raise he dreams of raising the dead. We avoid pain and seek peace. God uses pain to bring peace. We love what rusts he loves what endures. We show our kids the NBA superstar and say be like Mike. God points to the crucified carpenter with bloody lips and a torn side and says be like Christ. How vital that we pray armed with the knowledge that God is in heaven.. pray with any lesser conviction and our prayers are timid. shallow, and hollow. It is as important to know that even though God is in another realm he does bend close to see our sorrow and hear our prayers he is not so far above us that he is not touched by our tears. Though we may not be able to see his purpose or his plan, the Lord of heaven is on his throne and in firm control of the universe and our lifes and this war. So we entrust him with the future and with our lives and the lives of our enemies. Chapter 4 Good Truimphant….. How could God allow such evil (the terrorist attacks on 9-11) to bring so much destruction and loss? As the rubble still smolders and our hearts still ache, our questions continue. And yet we’ve already seen goodness emerging from the ruins… heroic deeds, selfless compassion, sense of community. Somehow in the midst of something so awful, goodness fights to prevail.
In this war goodness will prevail and the Iraqi people will one day enjoy freedom and prosperity …..
There are heroic deeds and kind acts that accompany our soldiers daily. The peek a boo with a two year old child; handing our school supplies and shoes to children who would not have any otherwise; handing our medical supplies to clincs stripped bare by insurrgents; caring for a fallen enemy and tending to his wounds as you endanger you own life (that happened yesterday or today)… because it is your job to save lives! And the list grows on a daily basis! God maybe sent us there for a reason did you ever think of that? I know of one little boy who is grateful that Co A found him and he will be getting medical attention after being born 7 years ago with life threatening birth defects… he was found because we were there….. chance …. NAH… God!
I am sorry I ranted but I love my nephew and I love my God and I believe in what both of them are doing!
wonderwomanjoa74 Says: July 19th, 2005 at 9:42 am
WELL SAID, AUNT TRACYE!!!!! You and I really should chat…
jc Says: July 20th, 2005 at 2:31 pm
It may very well be that an equivalent percent of Iraqi women have feelings and wishes and hopes and beliefs indistinguishable from those of Aunt Tracye. Unfortunately, since the paricipants and supporters of the events in question are each trying to destroy the other in order that their own interests will remain intact and safe, many of the women on both sides will have their dreams crushed and they will suffer agonies. And all these women, Christian and Muslem, claim to be praying to the same God. Incredible. This seems to show little respect for God to ask him to both do something and not do it in the same circumstance. I understand that faith may be all there is to cling to when control is entirely out of reach and one can do nothing to help. I am sorry.
Aunt Tracye Says: July 20th, 2005 at 3:33 pm
I am sorry for you too JC to have no faith to cling to when things go wrong to have no God to turn to when sorrow overwhelms you… to have no place to go to get away from all the horrors in the world…
Oh ye of little faith!
At least I have God if nothing else; and when my world is falling apart I have him to turn to; He is the constant in my life… he will never forsake me and he is always there even when evil comes to visit.. he is there and he is in control of my life as well as the lives of our soldiers and their enemies.. I know it is a hard concept but I have found help in understanding by reading Max Lucado books… he has a way of explaining the unexplainable! I suggest you invest in some of Max’s books as well!
I am sorry you have not let God into your heart I hope that by talking to me that you will consider it … faith is a wonderful thing….
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